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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 03:20:05 -0500
To: ALPINES@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: The "X" and the Mystery Engine
In a message dated 95-11-20 19:51:19 EST, JLAIFMAN@pnm.mhs.compuserve.com
(Jay Laifman) writes:
>For once and for all, "X" really just meant import to the US, no more no
>less. Sorry, it doesn't mean that any of our cars are any different than
>the rest of them out here.
>
>
According to the S.A.O.C. Members Handbook, the "L", typically the first of
the three-letter group on our cars, stands for "Left-hand drive export."
The third letter can either be "O", which means "Ordinary Specification," or
"X", which "is found on North American spec. cars and sometimes other
non-standard Alpines."
Again, have you checked the other "driver's" side of your block for the
raised letters which should show: production date, capacity and "H"igh or
"L"ow compression.
To verify the body number, check behind the driver's seat for another tag
attached just under the lip of the "occasional seat." The number on it
should match the body number found in the engine compartment.
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From: DSand95510@aol.com
Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:49:15 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:49:15 -0400 (EDT)
To: jerome@supernet.ab.ca
Subject: Re: when was mine built? (fwd)
In a message dated 97-09-05 12:54:49 EDT, you write:
>Saw the following response from you to someone else. Would you mind looking
>up the date for #9118636 ? What is this SAOC Handbook?
SAOC = Sunbeam Alpine Owners Club (based in England). They put out an
excellent bi-monthly newsletter (The Horn) and an annual members handbook.
The Alpine website has their address, etc.
Your car was manufactured during the week ended:......................
Sept 7th, 1962.
Ta-daaa!
Dick Sanders
Seattle
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From: frodo4@ix.netcom.com (John Souders )
Subject: Re: Oil Cooler Trivia
To: alpines@autox.team.net
You wrote:
>
>My Series I Alpine and my Tiger donot have the oil cooler mounts
welded to
>the valence, the Series V Alpine does.
>
>Are the V's the only ones with these?
>
>Frank Marrone MK I Tiger B9471116
>marrone@wco.com 1966 LTD
> Series I Alpine (2.3L powered by Ford)
> Yamaha Seca 900
>
>
The Series V Alpine was the only Alpine to use a cooler.
John
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From: "Ray Frazier" <ray@why.net>
To: <jerome@supernet.ab.ca>
Subject: parts car
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:01:17 -0000
contact Scott Christie at TEAE and he can give you info on your cars
(manufacture date etc.) Scott.Christie@gecapital.com .
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:13:27 -0400
To: ic089@cleveland.freenet.edu, alpines@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Literature Information
In a message dated 96-06-25 10:27:06 EDT, ic089@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John
H. Svensson) writes:
>2) In a related question, in what respects does a '69 2dr. hardtop Alpine
>from the Chrysler era differ from the earlier models? Good points, if any,
>bad points? While apparently a less desirable auto, $400 for a garaged,
>non-running, good body, needs brake overhaul, example seems reasonable.
>Any help on the above would be appreciated.
>
>
Differences: McPhearson (sp?) strut front suspension. Coupe model has cast
iron head and one Stromberg. Engine cants over at 10 degree angle. Tranny
imput shaft longer than Series cars.
Good points? Not too bad a basic "driver". When maintained, the brakes are
very good. Great conversation piece. People will point and stare at your
car everywhere you go. Tell people its a special one-off Barracuda. (even
most "car people" will believe it!!!)
Bad points? No one regularly stocks parts for them in the U.S., though they
should be easily obtainable from the U.K. (eg. Grimes) where they were sold
from 1967-76. When pushed, they understeer....and understeer.....and
understeer some more. If parted out, the 1725 is usable (with some
modifications) as well as the differential gears.
$400 is OK if the interior is relatively intact and the engine or front
suspension doesn't need an immediate overhaul. I've heard in the past that
the dual master cylinder is tough to rebuild, but I couldn't confirm it.
BTW, when ordering rear brake rebuild kits, order the ones for the "Sunbeam
Arrow". The kits for "Alpine GT" are for single piston cylinders (perhaps
Dick Sanders
Seattle, WA
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:01:22 -0500
Terry Edlund asked about the magazine a couple of days ago. On Jackie's last
visit from England, she brought me copies of the "last 11 issues" acquired at
an autojumble.
The August 1967 issue was the final one. The editorial eulogy stated that it
"was started by the Rootes Group in 1931, and has appeared regularly every
month since, except for the war years 1939-45."
The content of the mag was about 60% general motoring and 40% relating to
Rootes Group vehicles. Advertising fills about half the mag - copies of
current Rootes ads and "puff" pieces from suppliers. The model emphasis
during the final year was on the Hillman Hunter and various Imp incarnations.
Interested in trivia? Irvin Seat Belts were sole suppliers to Rootes Group.
Is your restoration really accurate?
"Ole"
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From: DSand95510@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 21:56:54 -0400
To: jewett@sierra.net
Subject: Re: Alpine Heads
In a message dated 96-05-20 19:36:23 EDT, you write:
> What are the diferences
>between the V heads, and the earlier heads. I have two, one has tubes
>around the plugs, and the other doesn't, I am assuming the one with tubes
>is a V head. Is there any other difference?
The one without "tubes" is probably from a very late Series V. I assume the
one without tubes has more of a pocket-shaped recess around the plugs.
The valves are slightly smaller on the 1592 head. There should also be a
water fitting at the back end of the the 1592 head. A pipe connects this to
the dual Zenith manifold. On the 1725cc the water fitting is blanked off or
plugged.
A few part numbers you may find stamped on the heads:
1592cc: 5220474 or 5220609 or 5220806
1725cc: 5220955 or 5220968
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From: "Christie, Scott E. (CAP, CSIG)" <Scott.Christie@gecapital.com>
To: "'jerome@supernet.ab.ca'" <jerome@supernet.ab.ca>
Subject: RE: when was this car built?
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:55:15 -0400
Okay, I finally have that information for you. The week ending Friday,
March 2, 1962 the last chassis number was B9111900. The next week,
ending Friday, March 9, 1962, the last chassis number was B9112060.
Rootes built 160 Series II Alpines that week, so yours falls in between
those two weeks, possibly built on Saturday March 3, or Sunday March 4.
Hope this makes sense.
Scott Christie
Series 3 Alpine Registry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jerome@supernet.ab.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 1:33 AM
> To: Scott.Christie@GECAPITAL.com
> Subject: Re: when was this car built?
>
> "Christie, Scott E. (CAP, CSIG)" <Scott.Christie@GECAPITAL.com> wrote:
> > I can tell you, but you're missing a number there somewhere - check
> > again and get back to me.
> > scott christie
> > series 3
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jerome@supernet.ab.ca
> > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 1997 12:03 AM
> > > To: Scott.Christie@gecapital.com
> > > Subject: when was this car built?
> > >
> > > I'm told you can tell me when a particular Alpine was
> manufactured. I
> > > have
> > > a Parts Car, B911949, in need of a birthdate for my records.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
>
> Oops. It's 9111949.
>
> --
>
> .-~-.-~-.-~-.-~-.-~-.- J e r o m e Y u z y k
> -~-.-~-.-~-.-~-.-~-.-~-.-~-.
> BRIDGE Scientific Services | jerome@supernet.ab.ca
> Edmonton, Alberta Canada | http://www.tgx.com/bridge
> Sunbeam Alpine Series II #9118636
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:22:19 -0500 (EST)
To: lgeorge@wwisp.com, Alpines@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Engines..
In a message dated 97-03-16 20:20:38 EST, lgeorge@wwisp.com (Lee George)
writes:
>Hey guys,
>a question. I have aquired 2 engines and was told that they were
>series V, but they dont look like mine. They dont have the "pocketed"
>sparkplug holes. These are round. And the dipstick tube goes to the
>oil pan.
>???????
Oh-oh. Dipsticks go directly in the block on 1725's. Check the block ID
number located just in front of the oil filter base.
B900... is Series I (1494cc)
B910... is Series II (1592cc)
B920... is Series III ( " )
B940... and
B941.... are Series IV ( " )
B3950... is Series V (1725cc)
"Pocketed" spark plug holes were found on all Series cars until late Series
V, but if the engines aren't 1725's, I imagine the heads aren't Series V,
either.
Dick Sanders
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From: Troy Farncombe <tfarncom@triumf.ca>
Organization: Vancouver Hospital Department of Nuclear Medicine
To: Alpine List <alpines@autox.team.net>
Subject: SAL numbers
A while ago there was a discussion regarding the SAL numbers on our
cars. It was suggested that prehaps the SAL stood for Sunbeam Assembly
Line or something of the sort. However, the initial letter actually
corresponds to the country of origin of the car. VIN numbers for other
countries are:
1 or 4 USA
2 Canada
3 Mexico
6 Australia
9 Brazil
J Japan
K South Korea
L Taiwan
S UK
V France or Yugoslavia
W Germany
Y Sweden
Z Italy
By the way, what Series cars correspond to what SAL numbers. My car
has an SAL number of 354026, but I don't know the chassis number as the
tag is missing. It is a series IV, but that's all I know. Any help?
Troy
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:18:27 +0000
To: Jay Laifman <Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com>
From: Jeff Howarth <jeff@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Harrington?? the inside track
OK Listers,
the secrets from the UK Harrington enclave........
There are basically 4 variants of the Harirngton :
'A' Type - based on a series 2 Alpine with a fibreglass roof which comes
down to half way across the original trunk lid. There is a shortened
trunk lid which opens to make the series 2 trunk even smaller !!
Le Mans - A complete change to the rear end which does away with the
fins and incorprates a tailgate - reputed by some to be the first car to
offer a hatchback? The rear wings are cut down and folded over to make a
lip for the fibregalss roof to bolt to. I rebuilt a really rusty one a
few years ago and it is an interesting challenge.
'C' type - this is again based on a series 2 (not 3 as stated by some).
Around 12 were made of which I know of 6 including my own. The roof is
designed to retain the rear pointy fins and incorporates a hatchback and
a rear roof vent. This makes the car look a bit like an Aston. I can E
mail a photo of mine if anyone is really interested.
'D' type - this uses the same roof as the C type but is based on a
sereis 4 body and therefore has the reduced wings. There are reportedly
3 cars produced of which 2 are concours examples in the UK. One owned by
a colleague of mine and the other is currently for sale in the Uk at
=A311,000 ( approx $18,000).
The car Jay is describing is a one off roof produced by Paul Knayston in
the UK. It is not a Harrington but I agree it is a really nice variation
on a theme. Paul is in the motor trade and aparently may consider making
copies ! the car is basically a sereis 5.
hopw it help clarify
regards
In message <862566D6.005BAC0C.00@internet-503.interliant.com>, Jay
Laifman <Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com> writes
>
>
>
>I found a few pictures of a Harrington D type (although I seem to recall
>reading somewhere that Harrington did not lable it a D type). The D type
>is based on a SIV and is the same as the Tiger Harrington, but NOT the same
>as this Alpine Coupe shown in the lastest Horn. So, the mystery continues.
>My guess now is that this is a one-off car by an owner with a great eye for
>getting the right lines. Or, merely someone who copied an Aston Martin as
>close as possible!
>
>As I said, I have e-mails out to some folks at SAOC in England inquiring
>about the car.
>
>Jay
>
>P.S. I did see those Tiger kill stickers on Steve Smith's car on the back
>page - very cool. Steve, by the way, is the club competition secretary.
>He advertises regularly in the Horn as Minx Developments getting 130BHP
>from your Alpine. I note from the picture of his engine compartment that
>he is running dual SU's on his car.
>
>
--=20
Jeff Howarth
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From: "herbeam" <herbeam@cari.net>
To: "Bill Gullatt" <bgullatt@mesahq.com>,
"Alpine People (E-mail)" <alpines@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Series IV
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1991 09:23:26 -0800
charset="iso-8859-1"
>From observations in San Diego I would say that an Automatic Sunbeam is
never sought after by Performance people. I man in San Diego has a very
nice restored one painted Red with Chrome Wire Wheels and could not sell it
market for stock or convertible but with a 83 hp engine and 3 spd auto with
the 389 rear they are the ultimate alpine slug. However.....that tunnel is
huge and you could put anykind modern day transmission in it, along with a _
_ engine! If the price is right /no rust/straight and you like it buy it!
Smitty has about 10 automatics up on the shelf....it is a borg warner 35 and
was used in 60's Jaguars/70's Datsuns.....I have some technical information
on it from various books...Parts are still around and its easy to work on
BOB
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Gullatt <bgullatt@mesahq.com>
To: Alpine People (E-mail) <alpines@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 7:33 AM
Subject: Series IV
>Alpiners,
>
>I found a Series IV automatic car and am contemplating the purchase. What
>kind of value should an auto Alpine have and how easy is it to get parts
for
>the transmission? The car is complete, straight and solid but very worn.
>
>Bill Gullatt
>Madison, AL
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:25:09 -0800
From: Jarrid Gross <jarrid_gross@earthlink.net>
To: Andrew Fletcher <a.fletcher@clear.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Inlet manifold
Andrew Fletcher wrote:
> Have among the sunbeam stuff a twin carb manifold with MCLAREN
> cast into the top, any clues to the origins or what carbs go to this
> manifold? a.fletcher@clear.net.nz
Describe the bolt pattern and number of ports on the flange.
Could be yet another twin DCOE manifold, or possibly an aftermarket
SU conversion for those who got pissed off with the strombergs.
DCOE has 2 sets of two ports, with the stud holes close together at the
tops
and wide at the bottoms.
SU would have two ports, and a square bolt pattern for each carb.
Brabhams skunk works was proported to have designed one "SU" for
the rootes line.
My weber/su/stromberg book shows a part number, but mentions nothing of
the
casting name.
Jarrid Gross
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From: "Jay Laifman" <Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com>
To: mpt3265@osfmail.isc.rit.edu, alpines@autox.team.net
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:21:26 -0800
Subject: Re: HELP! with '64 Alpine
Matt writes:
>First, the car in question is a series 3 -- tailfins clued me in here. Is
it
>properly identified as a 64, or would it be a '63? I don't know its
numbers,
>but one of the sites said that the series 4 was introduced in early '64.
Congratulations. The rarest of the Alpines (though don't take that to mean
worth any more). You get the early pointy fins, later interior and the
larger trunk. Be sure to register the car on the SIII Registry with Scott
Christy.
As to the year, I believe it could be either. Depends how the dealer and
the state it originally was sold in dated cars.
>Second, does a series 3 have tube or lever shocks at the rear?
Tubes front and rear - no MG lever shocks anywhere. Shocks are available,
including off the self ones at your local auto supply store. Spax are
available, and Koni's are harder to find right now until Sunbeam
Specialties and others get together to order another batch from Koni.
>Third, the small (~1600cc, I forget the exact size) motor has a
three-bearing
>crank. This worries me a bit, especially as I had thought about trying
for
>a bit more power. Are my worries justified?
I have heard all sides. Some believe the 3-mains can make a faster engine.
Some believe the 5-mains were weaker than the 3-mains; some believe the
opposite. However, bottom line is that neither crank is really known for
problems. In fact, they are both known for being robust. To get more
power, there is not much readily available. About the best and easiest
thing you can do is get the single down draft Weber for the car.
>Lastly, any notorious trouble spots on these cars? I know most of the
pitfalls
>of the 'B (Front suspension, head gasket, floors & sills etc...) from
>experience, but would be interested in the weak spots on sunbeams.
There are none. Actually, to be fair, the biggest drawback I ever saw in
the car in comparison to my friend's MGB, was how much harder the top is to
put up and down. I might also point out that while the Alpine might be a
little slower than some of its later contemporaries (remember that it had
great success at the hands of Ken Miles and others beating MGA's TR3's and
Porsche 356s, and even won at Le Mans, the Index of Thermal Effeciency),
the reason for that was that it weighed more from the extra metal in its
frame. However, the difference in speed some 30 years later is miniscule.
They are all slugs compared to today's econo-box. And, that extra metal
makes the car much safer (I was recently hit by someone who drove straight
into the passenger side of my Alpine at 45 miles an hour. The car was
totalled, I walked without even a scratch - and the car was actually still
able to limp me the rest of the way home. I attribute that to the beefier
frame. The extra weight also comes from the generally better quality of
the parts and features of the car, which you will see after spending time
with the car.
>PS. the series 3 gearbox: 3-synchro?
Yes. However, note that the SIII gearbox is a special close-ratio box.
As others have said, welcome to a great group.
Jay
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From: "Christie, Scott E. (CAP, GEFA)" <Scott.Christie@gecapital.com>
To: "'JimPaulR@aol.com'" <JimPaulR@aol.com>, jarrid_gross@earthlink.net,
owner-alpines@autox.team.net, rob@wisemaninsurance.com
Subject: RE: Restoration/ID plate
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:46:05 -0500
Alpines were produced in CKD (completely knocked down) kit form under
license in France. Check www.sunbeamalpine.com to see that early Series 1's
were not stamped with a color code.
Scott Christie
Series 3 Alpine Registry
-----Original Message-----
From: JimPaulR@aol.com [mailto:JimPaulR@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:38 AM
To: jarrid_gross@earthlink.net; owner-alpines@autox.team.net;
rob@wisemaninsurance.com
Subject: Re: Restoration/ID plate
As Rob indicated that his color code is missing (wear or whatever) so is
mine
on my series l - must have been printed on, there is no stamping.
Which brings up a question if anyone can help me. There is an ID plate on
the
right side of the engine compt that states:
Nom du Constructeur
Sunbeam Limited Angleterre
Rep...... en France
Rootes Motors S.A.
This plate also contains the same chassis # stamping as the "Coventry" ID
plate attached to the left side. Does this mean the car was manufactured
under license in France or was this plate attached to vehicles exported to
France, or what??
Curious in PA-
Jim
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From: OldeAlp@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:49:41 EST
To: alpines@autox.team.net
Subject: nave plate motif`
The hubcap badges used on Sunbeam Talbot Mark 2s and 3s and the "proper"
Alpines of '53-'55 vintage are 1 3/8" in diameter. The originals had two
studs each but the replacements only have a center stud.
They are available to members of STAR for 5 and a half British pounds (about
nine yankee dollars) each. As I recall, there is a 20% surcharge for
nonmembers. This is of course plus packing and shipping.
The background of the crest is this:
In 1902, the Earl of Shrewsbury and Talbot put up the money to begin British
manufacture of the French car, Clement. In return for his largesse, the
family name and crest - "a Talbot hound surmounted by a coronet" would be used
on the cars built both in London and in Paris.
Several years ago, Paul Johnson of the San Diego club undertook a research
project into heraldry (amazing what he found in the public library) and the
Talbot hound. The dog appeared in the crests of quite a few aristocratic
families in the 18th and 19th centuries. The Talbot hounds were a treasured
sporting and hunting dog. Alas, in the early 1900s, The Royal Kennel Club
removed the Talbot hound from its lists as none had been registered for a
number of years. As a distinctive breed, they are now considered extinct.
So, yeah, the dog in our crests started looking more lionly as it was
redesigned over the years, probably by people who didn't know of its origin.
"Ole" Olson
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From: CAtkisson@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:55:14 EST
To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com, alpines@autox.team.net, Tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Late SV's, Tigers and ride height
Jay,
The easiest way to tell if you have stock original Tiger springs, there will
be a green paint stripe hand brushed down one side.If they are Alpine they
will have an orange stripe. Thats after you remove all the road grime. If you
need to replace your spings Rick at S.S. has replacements available.
Larry Atkisson
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:01:51 -0700
From: Terry McKitrick <tmckit@connect.ab.ca>
Organization: Office Centre
To: alpines@autox.team.net
Subject: Talbot Dog
The Talbot dog either does not exist anymore, or there aren't enough of
them around to rate mention on any web pages I could find. There is an
interesting page at http://www.hubcom.com/channel/pugin/PugAtow.htm.
This is a place in Staffordshire called Alton Towers. There is a photo
of an old (mid 1800's) fireplace with the Talbot dogs engraved in
stone. They bear a very strong resemblance to our logo, and are really
quite lion-like.
Terry McKitrick
Series I B9006321LRX
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:49:17 -0500
From: Ian Spencer <toyguy@gte.net>
Organization: sunbeamalpine.com
To: Jerome Yuzyk <jerome@supernet.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: what's this switch for?
Jerome,
This sounds to me like the horn switch for a Harrington. The ones that were
fitted with the Liston - Carlotti steering wheel had a momentary contact
switch on the left hand side of the steering column. Just behind the
Overdrive switch. - Ian
Jerome Yuzyk wrote:
> Next to my wiper switch (or thereabouts) there was a momentary-contact
> switch used to control the horn. It's original, from somewhere, with a
> date of 02/60, like a few of my other switches. I am wondering what it,
> or whatever originally filled the hole, was supposed to be used for.
>
> --
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:39:47 -0500
From: John Slade <edalsj@igs.net>
Organization: Island View Associates
To: Jerome Yuzyk <jerome@supernet.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Tach-Speedo or Speedo-Tach?
Hi Jerome,
I have the dash and gauges from a Series III, a Series IV and a Tiger Mk
I. In none of these cars was there an indicator light as part of the
speedo or tach. There were separate lights mounted in the dash above and
either side of the steering column.
The order of gauges in all three cars was, from the left, amps, Tach,
oil, Speedo, water, clock, fuel. The indicator lights were hi-beam above
and left of steering column, flasher light above and right of steering
column.
John Slade
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:21:31 -0600 (MDT)
From: CMeinel464@aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:19:50 EDT
Subject: Re: DOES ANYONE KNOW
To: cavery@ctel.net
Chris,
Alpines engines, if original to the car will have a matching ID number to the
chassis number. You can look at our web site (http:www.classicsunbeam.com)
to see which Alpine the engines come from. Various other Sunbeam parts
supplies have the chassis numbers listed in their catalogs as well.
In regard to the transmissions: the have a built date on the drain side of
the casing which will tell you what year it was made. Heads are also marked
with a built date. Take off the valve cover and look toward the center top of
the head. remember that the British use a backwards dating system, the head
may read 66 k 3 which would give it a built date of 11/3/66. Heads also have
a casting number AM-1, AM-2, AM-3 an AM-3 would be a head from a 1725 engine.
Of course you could also check valve size.
Best regards,
Curt
Classic Sunbeam
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Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:13:10 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:20:47 -0400
From: Ian Spencer <ian@sunbeamalpine.org>
Organization: www.sunbeamalpine.org
To: Sunnbeam@aol.com
Subject: Re: Here Goes!
SAL stands for Sunbeam Assembly Line
JAL stands for Jensen Assembly Line
RAS stands for Rootes Armstrong Siddely
These were numbers assigned to the bodies before the actual serial
number and assembly. A sort of in-house inventory control. - Ian
Sunnbeam@aol.com wrote:
>
> I've been reading the mail on this list for about a year now. I've been
> dragging my
> MK-V around for 20 years. I am now ready to start!
>
> I would like to try and start the engine, but am not sure of what precautions
> I should take before doing so. Is there any recommended "check list" or
> whatever, that I can use as a reference?
>
> Also, what is the "SAL" number?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> George
> Sunnbeam @aol.com
--
Ian Spencer <www.sunbeamalpine.org>
'61 Harrington Alpine B9104782 OD HRO
'62 Harrington Le Mans BH9115930 OD LRX
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